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Topic Started: Oct 5 2009, 12:38 PM (119 Views)
Fed FFS	Oct 5 2009, 12:38 PM Post #1
Lvl 8 Admiral Posts: 2,838 Group: Members Member #43 Joined: September 29, 2004	Do you believe in good and evil? Are they relative? Can they be polar like light and darkness? Is there purpose to life beyond what we ascribe to it ourselves? Is there randomness and chaos in the universe? If so, is the human mind even equipped to register it? Is everything bound by law? Do we have a soul? Is it possible to have free will without a soul? Do animals have free will? If John Steele rapes Randy Mendez, how much herpes will be exchanged? If you believe in God, Is he within time and space? or beyond it? Do you believe he created everything out of nothing? That all matter has always existed and he merely organized it? or what? Is God personal? If you don't believe in God, Why does the human mind create God? Is religion evil? Are we all insane?
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DarkSteele	Oct 5 2009, 01:04 PM Post #2
My chest hair makes a bird. Posts: 14,629 Group: Super-Mod Member #9 Joined: August 4, 2004	1. In shades yes, no they can't be polar imo. If only because of people perceiving what is good and what is evil differently. 2. no 3. its been proven that there are random bits (emission of particles and crap) 4. like, laws of physics and stuff? I guess so until we make a new discovery that debunks the old "facts" 5. insofar as it is a summation of what you consider yourself, certainly no ghost image that floats around out of you 6. yes 7. they have competing instinctual urges that they follow in the main, but occasionally they do crazy things that are a bit beyond that explanation... so I'd say yeah if only because I love fuzzy widdle animals 8. none, I'm on that penicillin 9. he would be beyond, of course 10. I believe I'm not qualified enough to come down on either side of that. 11. Personal? Like he only watches out for me? No... But, a timeless entity could pay attention to everyone... (again, assuming it exists at all) 12. fear of the dark and death 13. not at first, and as a whole most aren't - people inside it can pervert the purpose though 14. if we were then it wouldn't be insanity, it would be the norm: sanity- so yes we are all sane
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Pyroclasm	Oct 5 2009, 02:05 PM Post #3
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM Posts: 724 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: September 15, 2004	Quote: Do you believe in good and evil? Are they relative? Can they be polar like light and darkness? In a sense. Good and evil are terms we give to actions that either help or cause harm to ourselves or others. They are, by definition, relative, because they are created by people, and people don't agree on everything. I don't think they're really polar, though. Every action has effects, and even the best action can have negative effects, despite intentions. Like DDT. Kills malaria carrying insects, which saves millions of lives, but also causes environmental damage. Quote: Is there purpose to life beyond what we ascribe to it ourselves? I don't know. If there is, I haven't found it. I'd say we sort of make it up as we go along. Quote: Is there randomness and chaos in the universe? If so, is the human mind even equipped to register it? There is randomness in the universe. Think of beta particle decay. You can assign a half-life to a material and figure out within reasonable limits how much of it will decay after a certain point, but you can never predict when a specific atom will decay. Quote: Is everything bound by law? What do you mean by law? As far as we can tell, the universe behaves in specific, unchanging ways, but laws of physics are just our current understanding of the behavior of the universe. They get refined and altered all the time. Quote: Do we have a soul? Define "soul". We have a personality, yes, but there's no evidence that it is anything other than a product of our brains. As far as a magical, invisible, intangible thing that gets vacuumed up to heaven when we die? I can't say for sure, but I've seen no reason to believe in one. Quote: Is it possible to have free will without a soul? Maybe, but probably not. Quote: Do animals have free will? If humans do, then at least some animals do, like dolphins or elephants. But ants? Or bacterium? No. Quote: If John Steele rapes Randy Mendez, how much herpes will be exchanged? Two gallons. Quote: If you believe in God, Is he within time and space? or beyond it? If there is a God, it would have to exist somewhere, so saying it is beyond space is silly. And if you want your God to be able to act, then it would need to exist within some sort of time frame, because time is necessary for action. But these frames of reference wouldn't necessarily be our own. But considering this is just a bunch of navel-gazing, I honestly have no idea. Quote: Do you believe he created everything out of nothing? That all matter has always existed and he merely organized it? or what? Again, if there is a God, we're talking about something that created our universe. Speculation like this is pretty meaningless, because we don't really have anything to go on. Quote: Is God personal? As in, cares about its creation and interacts on a personal level? I'm 99% certain such a God does not exist. If it did, why do we have so many religions and denominations? Why hasn't this being been recorded in some fashion? And why does it only seem to "speak" certain people? Imagine the religious strife that could be ended if an all powerful God decided to make itself known to all of humanity, in a personal fashion? Quote: If you don't believe in God, Why does the human mind create God? There's a lot of ideas about why almost every society in history has had some idea of a God. The one I find most compelling is that human brains are really good at pattern seeking. This is an incredibly useful skill to have, say, if you're looking out for lions on the Savannah, but it can misfire. People seem wired to perceive intention, even if there is none. So when lightning struck, and primitive humans didn't have any idea what it was, they made up stories about Gods and demons. It's a function if ignorance, fear, and hard wired human behavior. Quote: Is religion evil? I don't think "things" can be evil. You wouldn't call a plane good or evil, even though it can be used to deliver valuable medicines to out of reach communities, or drop bombs that kill thousands. It's all in how something is applied. Quote: Are we all insane? Insanity is something that's determined by the majority, so we can't all be insane. It's a contradiction of terms.
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DA_KLOWN	Oct 5 2009, 03:25 PM Post #4
Gotta catch 'em all. Yep. Posts: 2,481 Group: Members Member #147 Joined: August 26, 2006	Do you believe in good and evil? Are they relative? Can they be polar like light and darkness? -Yes, but the line between the two is very thin; I would say so, yes; I don't think so. I think most "evil" people initially set out to do good things. But like the saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." Is there purpose to life beyond what we ascribe to it ourselves? -Doubt it. Whether people want to admit it or not, we all like to feel important. And I think the reason this question usually goes unanswered is because people are afraid of what the answer might be. I mean if we were told "No, no, you're just here for kicks," there'd be no point, and nothing would get done. And it's not a bad thing to give meaning to your life when there really isn't one in the grand scheme. It's just natural. Is there randomness and chaos in the universe? If so, is the human mind even equipped to register it? Yes there is, and no it isn't. The human mind is a fascinating thing, in that it can do so, so much. Every technological advancement, all the creativity, the systems we live and die by, ALL products of someone's brain. The potential of the human mind is practically limitless, there are still things about the human brain that are a mystery. I think to even begin to think about the universe (much less comprehend it), we need to have a firm grasp on the workings of the mind and it's sheer potential as well. Is everything bound by law? -If that were the case, they wouldn't be broken. Do we have a soul? -That really depends on how you define soul. Some define it in a religious sense. I am not religious however, which puts me in an awkward position in terms of defining the aforementioned term. I imagine most religious fanatics would be quick to say I have none, because I don't believe in a higher power (it's actually not that I don't, I'm just too lazy). I would say everyone has something akin to a soul, whether you define it as such is another matter. Is it possible to have free will without a soul? -I think to answer that you'd have to be certain as to whether humans have free will at all. That's still a bit of a debate. On one hand, there are those that believe we're guided by biological and psychological impulses in our brain, which lead us to form our personalities, which form our habits, quirks, etc. Then there are those who are more comfortable with the idea of knowing that they are in control of what they do on a day-to-day basis, that if they were to think anything but they'd be nothing more than animals. But either way, both of these can be assumed to have something of a soul, which might as well be an extension of their personalities or the human condition, which guides their decisions, emotions and creativity. I imagine without a soul, you probably wouldn't be able to do much of anything at all; you wouldn't have the emotion, the desire for anything. Do animals have free will? -In keeping with my previous answer, yes probably. If John Steele rapes Randy Mendez, how much herpes will be exchanged? -None, John's careful about this sort of thing. If you believe in God, Is he within time and space? or beyond it? Again, not terribly religious, but I think it's been written that God created the universe (all that was, is, and will be) which is constantly expanding. What's within Time and Space is really up to him/her/whatever isn't it? Do you believe he created everything out of nothing? That all matter has always existed and he merely organized it? or what? -See above answer Is God personal? -For this question, I'll give the answer one of my professors gave me: Quote: "Look at this photo: Now, everyone one of those shining lights, is a galaxy. In every one of those galaxies, there are stars. Around every star, is a solar system. In every solar system, there is a planet like ours. And you think, that a being who created ALL of this is concerned about your ONE life out of six BILLION people on this one speck of dirt among 9 planets, among who-knows-how many galaxies? Interesting concept." If you don't believe in God, Why does the human mind create God? -Because I think the biggest fear that ANYONE on this earth has is being alone. No one wants to be alone, I know I sure don't, and I'm not too proud to say so. The thought of being alone is terrifying. The thought that no one will come to help you, be with you; the thought of no human interaction at all. Hell, people can't even go without their cellphones for more than a day. Religion or belief in a higher power gives everyone some solace. God is ALWAYS there, whether you want him to be or not, meaning that he'll be there when there is no one else. Even if no one is physically with you, he was, is, and will be. And it's a comforting feeling, to know that there's at least one person (so to speak) that will never EVER leave you. And religion addresses this too, by showing that there are people out there just like you, that don't want to be alone either. So that when you hit rock bottom, you have a network of other, tangible, people to reach out to before God steps in. Is religion evil? -Religion itself, is not. It's one of those things that should work, but only in theory. It's when you add people to the mix that fucks everything up. But again, "the road to hell..." I think that if church were just a place to go worship on your won terms and to fellowship with others, without anyone running a "service", I think religion wold be much better off. Are we all insane? -I don't doubt it.
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Palmer	Oct 5 2009, 09:08 PM Post #5
Lvl 8 Admiral Posts: 3,123 Group: Members Member #97 Joined: June 27, 2005	I would answer this, but I need to do homework. I would just like to say that John's post is unique because the original questions aren't numbered, and he didn't include the questions. A+



AlphaStrikeSteve	Oct 5 2009, 09:22 PM Post #6
Posts: -3,817 Group: Administrator Member #2 Joined: July 19, 2004	i tl;dr'd this thread but just want to respond to da_klowns quote, there is definitely not a planet like ours in every solar system our planet is very special <3 that is all
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DarkSteele	Oct 5 2009, 09:36 PM Post #7
My chest hair makes a bird. Posts: 14,629 Group: Super-Mod Member #9 Joined: August 4, 2004	Quote: I'm 99% certain such a God does not exist. If it did, why do we have so many religions and denominations? Why hasn't this being been recorded in some fashion? And why does it only seem to "speak" certain people? Imagine the religious strife that could be ended if an all powerful God decided to make itself known to all of humanity, in a personal fashion? Slages, you could put that on the flip side and say that people are opposed BECAUSE of their different personal viewpoints/connections with God. Or whatever. edit: PLUS, my answers were short and to the point. So fuck dat question quoting shit. Edited by DarkSteele, Oct 5 2009, 09:43 PM.
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DA_KLOWN	Oct 6 2009, 02:14 AM Post #8
Gotta catch 'em all. Yep. Posts: 2,481 Group: Members Member #147 Joined: August 26, 2006	alphastrikesteve Oct 5 2009, 09:22 PM i Your post was too long, and I am in no mood'd this thread but just want to respond to da_klowns quote, there is definitely not a planet like ours in every solar system our planet is very special <3 that is all D: I fail at science sry
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Josh	Oct 6 2009, 03:04 AM Post #9
yay black people! Posts: 1,028 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: March 23, 2007	Maybe to all.
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Pyroclasm	Oct 6 2009, 03:08 AM Post #10
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM Posts: 724 Group: Members Member #37 Joined: September 15, 2004	Quote: Slages, you could put that on the flip side and say that people are opposed BECAUSE of their different personal viewpoints/connections with God. Or whatever. Now I'm just confused. Of course people are opposed because they view God in different ways. But if we actually had any sort of objective frame of reference, you know, like a God people could actually see and talk to, then this wouldn't be the case. Like, imagine the Pope, the Grand Ayatollah, the Dali Lama, and a whole bunch of Rabbis all took a trip up mount Sinai (or whatever) with a news crew, and asked God which religion was correct, and actually got a response. Think about what that would mean. Quote: edit: PLUS, my answers were short and to the point. So fuck dat question quoting shit.
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DarkSteele	Oct 6 2009, 11:14 AM Post #11
My chest hair makes a bird. Posts: 14,629 Group: Super-Mod Member #9 Joined: August 4, 2004	I was saying if everyone's personal relationship was different (which you could argue it IS right now, people claim to get responses all the time they are just different) that would lead to arguments when people were like lol guys my way is better than yours for sure. I think we're talking about different stuff.
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